Ryzen Performance In Smaller Builds: GIGABYTE AB3. N- Gaming Wifi. One of the things that I personally have been looking forward to as part of AMD’s Ryzen release was the announcement of AM4 boards in a mini- ITX environment. It’s been a while since we’ve had a top- of- the- line AMD m. ITX build and, after getting the missing piece while visiting Los Angeles for SIGGRAPH, it’s time to see how that actually performs in an everyday environment. To help us with this, GIGABYTE sent along their new m. ITX motherboard for AM4 — the AB3. N- Gaming Wifi. Since I needed to remove the ASUS Z1. I Pro Gaming anyhow to free up the Intel Core i. It also turned out to be the perfect timing to revisit an issue we found during the original review of Ryzen, an issue specific to GIGABYTE motherboards and Ubuntu. One of the most frustrating issues about making changes in this particular case is the Silverstone TD- 0. SLIM 1. 20mm all- in- one cooler and fan. ![]()
When trying to close the cover (pictured above) it’s a delicate dance of getting the lid closed, making sure everything fit without getting unplugged, and turning it on. In the few times that I have opened this case it has rarely happened and even broke the USB 3. ASUS motherboard. This time I was determined to do it right – I really have no desire to repeat this unless I’m going to take that closed loop out and replace it with a forced air solution, such as possibly one of the Wraith coolers from AMD. The build configuration matches what was originally listed in the Ryzen review for the Intel Core i. Since I have had issues getting the Corsair memory to play nice with Ryzen, I decided to change it out and use the Ge. *** Under Construction Last update: 21/02/17 ***Updated 23/03/17:-i) added AlKappaccino testing data of OC'ingNote:- As of Fiji bios editor v1.2 all mods most users. IL memory that we had used previously for the review. Since this is my daily use PC I also decided to leave the SM9. NVMe drive. But let’s get to the motherboard. GIGABYTE AB3. 50. N- Gaming Wifi Pictures and Layout. While I was disappointed to see only two fan headers here, the layout of the GIGABYTE motherboard was much more amicable to the layout of the Steelseries Fortress Z case it was going in. The ASUS motherboard had all of the SATA and USB ports located towards the RAM and, when closing the case, is how the USB 3. In this case I was able to run the cables for power, SATA, front panel and USB 3. I needed to close it. The motherboard also supports GIGABYTE’s RGB Fusion with a 4 and 5 pin header. Since this is my daily use PC and the Ge. IL RAM had mysteriously burned up its LED lighting feature, I decided not to use these. The PC is often on at night and in this case, less is better. In addition to the motherboard the contents of the box also included the typical I/O shield, manual, driver CDs, two SATA cables and a Gigabyte Gaming badge for the front of the case. Gigabyte’s typical wifi antenna is also included and features a magnetic base to easily allow it to stay on a case such as this Fortress Z. On the rear panel was a great array of USB ports – 2 2. An optical output is not provided, but a 2 pin S/PDIF along with using the 5. V output from the USB 2. While not used, a PS/2 connector was nice to see here. Also nice are the choices of HDMI and Display. Port, used in conjunction with one of AMD’s newly released AM4 APUs with integrated graphics. Standard gigabit LAN and 8. Mbps) as well as Bluetooth 4. On the board itself was also a USB 3. SATA Ports and a 4+4 pin power beyond the standard 2. On a mini- ITX build space is at a premium, and so just like the ASUS motherboard it is replacing GIGABYTE also locates the m. This gave us an opportunity to remove the stock AM4 bracket and replace it with the AM4 kit that was ordered to fit the Silverstone Tundra TD0. SLIM. It was nice to see that the kit also included a small, thin gasket to ensure that the new underplate didn’t make contact with the motherboard – other products had not done this and originally had issues booting due to this. While we had the 1. X and 1. 80. 0X to choose from as well, I ended up installing the Ryzen 1. While this particular 1. I want from the Ryzen 7 without going overboard. When the i. 7- 6. With that in mind I also set a more aggressive fan profile to keep the fans going at 1. Celsius. Setup & Use. Although it took multiple times to get everything to stay plugged in, it was time to put it to work. After setting the more aggressive fan profile and letting it break in, the Ryzen 1. Under load it will still reach as high as the 8. TD0. 3- SLIM helps keep it cool and get back down to to normal temperatures. Since it’s the middle of summer here in Okinawa, it was a great chance to also test how it would perform in warmer environments. With the air conditioner off and the room temperature in the high 9. CPU sits in the mid 4. Celsius; the VRM chips though like to sit in the 6. As for functionality and performance, everything is working well. There is one small problem though, and it’s not the fault of GIGABYTE – and actually not really a problem either way. When looking into CPU- Z it was discovered that the Sapphire RX4. Nitro+ 8. GB was running only 8 lanes of PCI- Express, not the fully supported 1. Since it was shown in the past that this makes little difference in gaming performance it’s more a curiosity than anything. GIGABYTE’s manual shows that m. SATA or NVMe should not affect this either. I never was able to narrow down the cause but, a week later, it went away. I’ll explain more on that in a bit. Revisiting Ubuntu on GIGABYTE AM4 Motherboards. As mentioned at the beginning we wanted to take this time to also confirm the current situation regarding GIGABYTE’s AM4 motherboards and the issues that prevented it from running Ubuntu 1. We had seen before that the fix had been pushed but never saw a ISO release containing it. As part of this I went and grabbed the latest daily image of Ubuntu 1. USB stick. Booted to the USB and for the joy of all Linux users, Ubuntu 1. AB3. 50. N- Gaming Wifi without any issues or any devices missing. A quick test of this on the AORUS X3. GAMING 5 also confirmed that the fix should apply to all motherboards that were not working properly due to this specific issue. Much credit goes to the Linux community members, Gigabyte and the Canonical team for both promptly identifying and pushing a fix to their kernel to once and for all put this to bed. Note: According to at least one user on GIGABYTE’s user forums the 1. Conclusion. We’re happy to see GIGABYTE boards working properly in Linux now. In our original testing of Ryzen the X3. GAMING 5 was one of our best performers in regards to overclocking ability. With the AB3. 50. N- Gaming Wifi we were able to take those same results from the review, plug them into the BIOS and were off to the races with all cores running at 3. GHz along with the RAM at its full rated speed of 3. MHz. The wifi speeds are not the highest out there but it’s also not the shabbiest. Features included on the board offer a wide array of options for building a good mini ITX PC, whether that be for a living room/HTPC, gaming, development or as a headless build box. I do wish that it would have included an optical out instead of the additional 3. Thanks to the changes in Ubuntu 1. Given that there are only a few mini ITX options out there it’s great to see an option out so quickly to support Ryzen and we look forward to the many new small form factor Ryzen PCs this will help make happen. Update: One Week Later. For those of you who follow me on Twitter you may have realized that this build shut down on me on Saturday morning. It took most of the afternoon to figure out what happened, but the Silver. Stone TD0. 3- SLIM all- in- one cooler wasn’t functioning properly. Thankfully its only victim was the Ryzen 7 1. POST when inserted into any motherboard. In as its replacement are now the Ryzen 7 1. X and the AMD Wraith Spire cooler. After switching out the CPU and cooler many problems disappeared. The graphics card was once again utilizing all 1. PCI- Express lanes and the temperatures, despite being on a forced air cooler and heatsink, dropped to the mid 3. It is regrettable that we lost a CPU in the process but glad to know that this is the reason why it was getting too hot in the Fortress Z case. And with the loop out of the way working in the case has become tremendously easier. It was a good test with the water cooling, but I think in this particular case the test is permanently over. Intel Core i. 7- 6. K Platform (Before Modifications)All parts in this platform were personal purchases. AMD Ryzen 7 1. 70. Fiji Bios Editing ( Fury / Fury X / Nano / Radeon Pro Duo )***Under Construction Last update: 2. Updated 2. 3/0. 3/1. Al. Kappaccino testing data of OC'ing. Note: - As of Fiji bios editor v. The manual mods are still in OP for those that wish to know how the editor was developed on mods I tested. They are also there so others may develop a mod and share it. Note: - Any stock ROM even with a UEFI/GOP module within it, is technically non- UEFI once modified. There is a bios signature within Legacy ROM section, which is a hash of the hashes of protected tables within ROM. As the mods we do are within the protected tables and we can't update the signature in Legacy ROM to reflect the changes it will fail UEFI checks, thus you need CSM support enabled in motherboard bios to use a modded ROM. The only solution to allow custom UEFI ROM with CSM = Off, is to use a custom UEFI/GOP module in ROM. This solution was provided by Lordkag of Fernando's Win- RAID Forum. The update tool is located in appropriate heading below. Make backup of original bios on video card, for each switch position. Edit copies of your original bios, so you always have original unedited bios to use if things go bad. Do not flash both bios positions as then at least you'll have option to boot from other if something goes wrong. Do not have HWi. NFO, GPU- Z, MSI AB, Tri. XX, etc running in the background when flashing ROM to card. Warning: Using this guide to edit your bios will void your warranty (if card has one). This guide is provided assuming a user knows implications of what they are doing. I accept no responsibility for damage from using this information. All efforts are being made to double check information but there maybe errors. Al. Kappaccino testing data of OC'ing(Click to show)Quote: Originally Posted by Al. Kappaccino Greetings,late to this party, but anyways. I started to oc my Fury X again, after I went back to stock when Re. Live came live and now I want to share some OC results with you. I use OPs custom BIOS and changed MVDDC back to stock 1. V. My card at stock runs VID on DPM7 with 1. V which I changed to 1. V. I used the already set +2. V offset but decreased VID of DPM0- DPM6 accordingly to match stock values again. So DPM0- 6 is stock and DPM7 is around 1. V under usage. Core Clock on 1. V runs stable so far, running multiple stress tests. OC in percent = +8%HBM can run stock with - 2. V but for 5. 45mhz, 1. V is necessary Going higher results in memory error. OC in percent = +8%GPU gets around 4. C, VDDC Temp get as high as 6. C and MVDDC is around 4. C. Logged with HWi. NFO6. 4. I use a pretty aggressive cooling curve though, running 1,9. And before I forget, my HW is: Windows 1. AMD Re. Live 1. 7. Radeon Fury X, Xeon E3- 1. GB@1. 60. 0mhz of DDR3 ram. So I ran a few benches to see the performance difference between stock, core oc, HBM oc and both overclocked. I ran each test 3 times and used the average of those for the diagrams. Valley Benchmark(Click to show). So first of, Valley benchmark with Ultra Preset. Min and Max FPS is not that important. I wanted to keep it simple. Let's talk about avg. FPS then. We can see, that HBM oc only already gives us a boost of around +1. Core OC gives us a boost of +1. OCing both, results in literally the same, even a bit less. Even though the card maintained their max clock speeds, some kind of throttling seems to take place. D Mark(Click to show). Next up, 3. D Mark. In Fire Strikes High Performance test, HBM oc gives +2%, core and both oced give around +8% performance boost. Again Core gives you more performance per % of oc, but oc on both tends to be even a tidbit worse than ocing only the core. Heading over to 3. D Marks Time Spy benchmark, we see a very interesting result. HBM oc now gives us - 1. Core oc however increases our performance by around +5%. Again, OC on botch results the same. Deus Ex: Mankind Divided(Click to show). On Deus Ex: Mankind Divided (DX: MD) I used the built in benchmark on DX1. Ultra with tweaks) I set up for my game. We can now see, that HBM oc does nothing and even the 8% core clock increase gives us only 4,8% FPS increase. I was curious whether the increased HBM clock really does nothing, so I also measured the frametimes using OCAT/Present. Mon with those results: Frame Times over 3. DX: MD(Click to show). While definitely not the best frametimes, we see that HBM oc performs exactly as stock. Only core clock increase results in a better avg. Which is interesting, considering the reported FPS is the same. Conclusion: While not the most comprehensive benchmark, I get a similar pattern throughout each test and I try to extend that when I got time. HBM oc does literally nothing at all, with the exception of Valley benchmark. Increasing the core clock results in minor performance increases, but you're very limited on how far you can push the card. A typical combination of both, seems to run the card into some kind of throttling (The clockspeeds stayed at max though). We can often see a slight decreased performance, even though it should be always slightly higher at minimum. But temps are okay, so are the used voltages. As of now, it seems that you gain nothing from HBM OC, but it may vary in different applications. I'll try to look further into this. Oh and yeah, here are some AIDA6. I took. One is full stock (1. AIDA6. 4(Click to show)Fury X 3. DMark 1. 3 Mega bench (FS / FSE / FSU over 2. Atom. BIOSWarning: Spoiler!(Click to show)Atom. Bios is the ROM on card. Quote: Atom. Bios info. Atom is basically a byte code scripting language used to write little scripts to handle basic card initialization tasks (asic init, setting engine/memory clocks, modesetting). There are two sets of tables in ATOM: command tables (basically scripts that execute certain functionality) and data tables (structs that store board/system specific information (type and number of connectors/encoders used on the board, power states, ddc lines, panel info, etc.). The command tables are versioned and there are specific structs defined for the inputs to the command tables. These are all defined in atombios. Object. ID. h. Command tables can also call other command tables and look up data in data tables. Extract from, another useful page to view. Atom. Dis (Atom. Bios parser) installation and usage in Ubuntu. Warning: Spoiler!(Click to show)Atom. Bios. Reader for Windows by @kizwan. Warning: Spoiler!(Click to show)Creates tables for a ROM like Atom. Dis in Linux, in the created tables lists you will find "Command Tables" and "Data Tables". Pretty much all edits we will be doing are"Data Tables". Extract from created tables list for a ROM: -Code: 0. Len 0. 2b. 4 Rev 0. Power. Play. Info). Each table gets a hexadecimal number in the list, in above example Power. Play is 0. 00f. After that we see the offset location for Power. Play in the ROM = a. Search" then select "Goto" from menu bar in Hx. D (hex editor) and type that offset location the cursor will go there. After that we see length in hexadecimal of the Power. Play table in the ROM, 0. B4 . If we pick "Edit" then "Select block" from menu bar in Hx. D and enter the offset location a. B4 the whole Power. Play will be selected out of ROM. ATOMBIOSReader. zip 7. ATi. Flash. Warning: Spoiler!(Click to show)Windows command line version(Click to show)Run command prompt in administrator mode to flash; it can take longer than DOS version to finish flash on previous gen cards, so do wait. Below is screenie of completed flash message. Link: -Video of me flashing ROM to my Fiji card. Saving ROM1. Download ATi. Flash zip, place all files in directory where you will run ATi. Flash. 2. Run command prompt as administrator, navigate to where ATi. Flash is on your system, mine is in C: \Users\XPS3. To save ROM enter atiflash - s 0 romname. Note: - Check saved ROM is 2. KB, also GPU- Z now does support backup of ROM for Fiji. Flashing ROM1. Download ATi. Flash zip, place all files in directory where you will run ATi. Flash. 2. Run command prompt as administrator, navigate to where ATi. Flash is on your system, mine is in C: \Users\XPS3. To flash enter atiflash - p 0 romname. Restart System To Complete VBIOS Update."Forcing a flash of ROM with different SSID / Device. ID1. Download ATi. Flash zip, place all files in directory where you will run ATi. Flash. 2. Run command prompt as administrator, navigate to where ATi. Flash is on your system, mine is in C: \Users\XPS3. To flash enter atiflash - p 0 romname. Restart System To Complete VBIOS Update."Notes: - Do not have HWi.
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